That goes for me too!

Im just messing with you Jeff, My bad if you took it the wrong way... This is TJ, and i really didnt mean to do any name dropping with the intentions of  pissing anyone off. So I do apologize man...

That's because the guilt of bagging isn't there when you play AM1.


Great tournament, Holly!

i didnt know who it was thats why i got so pissed, but don't worry about it. im sorry too for bein so bitter, in sense u were trying to compliment me  and i took it the wrong way. so its all good.

"The newcomers are going to be playing against the Wootens, andersons, neinebars, bretlands, and Madden. And **** if you walked out to your first tourny ever and got grouped up with Jeff, and watched him throw. Youd be thinking you made a terrible mistake by signing up!"

This may be true, but the point of competition is putting yourself out there and seeing how you stack up. In my 1st tourney, I thought I'd be able to hang in Am2. I'd played casually for years and thought I was decent. Well, at 26 years old, I ended up on the last card of Am2-and they put us with the juniors (a 14 year old and a 9 year old)..I barely avoided DFL-it was humbling. But this didn't make me sorry I played, it just showed me that there is a whole lot of good players out there and that if I wanted to hang at all-I'd need to get better.

Guess my point is that disc golf is a great game period. You don't need competition to have fun playing (sometimes I really prefer a lazy casual round)...but if you're going to compete, it may as well mean something. When you can play what you feel to be a sloppy tourney-and still cash-it's time to move up.

Cool Man... I was hoping you wouldnt be to pissed when you saw it was me! :)

While goofing around on the pdga site last night, I noticed something interesting. The Seneca Creek Soiree last year offered a sliding entry fee based on player rating. Those rated over 990 had to pay the full 90 bucks, while those under 919 payed half that, with two other price breaks in-between. No amateur divisions were offered. The open field had 48 players.

This sounds like a great technique to get people to move up and see what it's like with the big dogs while not having to fork over the huge fee and at the same time boost the total purse.

Then stop playing am2!

I watched the Seneca Creek all year. Great idea. I've always wanted to run a tournament where the payout was announced before sign ups started, and this seems like the perfect format. The problem is the sliding entry fee creates a premium on top rated players' entry fees, rather than a discount for lower rated players. Look at the payouts. VERY weak for an A-Tier. It would work quite well as a C-Tier with $2,500 added cash.

But if they still allowed AMs to accept merch instead of cash then that would fix the issue of staying AM to play AM Nats and Worlds.

I think it creates both a premium and a discount.  $2500 added would be great for any tournament.  I don't think they even met the minimum of added cash for an A-tier at Seneca though.  So the low payouts can't be solely attributed to the sliding entry fee.