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AdamJ
Posted: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:09:07 PM

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Or why don't we all agree that all clubs must have their schedules ready for review by a certain date each year, we can then discuss changes and then post final dates for all to see without the ignorant bickering. Seems like the smart thing to do.
alexh
Posted: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:50:36 PM

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Now that is a good idea!
PaulDmt
Posted: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:42:23 AM
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I think we all agree
1) that it's hard to find open tourny dates w/o impacting a neighbor
2) PDGA events get first call on those dates
3) It's great when there's no overlap and we can play all events offered by both cities

It also seems that our schedules need to be done at the same time.  In person would be ideal.  Whoever creates their's second will have what 8 less dates to work with so why have a second when we can both be first 1stplace  
 

pcaldwell
Posted: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:08:01 PM

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Go ahead and set the 2010 schedule, now, and we'll have 1st dibs...apparently that's how it works.
DanH
Posted: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:38:17 PM

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Doing our schedules together would be ideal I guess, but somehow I don't see it happening. How about we agree to consider our schedules tentative until they are both out, and we've had a chance to resolve major conflicts? Someone's always going to be first, and if Dayton is going to beat us to the punch, I don't blame them. But it would be wise to hold off on reserving shelters and parks until we're both sure of our schedules.

Edit:  Just realized I wrote nearly the same thing as Adam.  Good idea Adam!
Rob J
Posted: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:46:59 PM

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AdamJ wrote:
Or why don't we all agree that all clubs must have their schedules ready for review by a certain date each year, we can then discuss changes and then post final dates for all to see without the ignorant bickering. Seems like the smart thing to do.


how about something like a fantasy football draft where each locale alternates first pick for open dates in a given month? (Cinci picks a March 2010 date first, then Dayton -- Dayton picks an April date first, then Cinci... etc.).   or would that be too fair?
DAMarlow
Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:37:40 PM
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After much deliberation we have decide to move the Nov. 7th course challenge tournament at Lincoln Ridge (formerly Banklick Woods) to Nov. 14th so that there is no conflict with the Stillwater tournament up in Dayton. I know there are nearby PDGA tournaments on the 14th but we felt this was our best choice.

Dave Marlow
Holly W
Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:32:34 PM
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Dave,
thanks for making the change, all who are involved in The Stillwater Open will be very pleased
Seanboy1
Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:43:18 PM

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I second that
STEVO
Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:18:19 PM
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Okay, how about this:

Next year, each club schedules three of their series tournaments on the Sunday following the other club's Saturday tournament (i.e. BID on Saturday, CCS the following Sunday, and vice versa).  That way, you would reduce the number of weekends used for local "series" tournaments from 18 to 12.  Plus, there would be 6 weekends with two local tourneys relatively close to each other the same weekend (out-of-towners?)....
Seanboy1
Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:11:20 AM

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pcaldwell wrote:
Go ahead and set the 2010 schedule, now, and we'll have 1st dibs...apparently that's how it works.





I'll have it done next week
finnhawc
Posted: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:40:44 PM

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Anyhow, great job mixing it up a bit! Playing the courses at different times of the year will add to the series experience for me.
Liz
Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:20:33 AM

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Do we know who is running each of the course challenges? I can volunteer, if a spot needs to be filled.
Blotz
Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:15:01 PM

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STEVO wrote:
Okay, how about this:

Next year, each club schedules three of their series tournaments on the Sunday following the other club's Saturday tournament (i.e. BID on Saturday, CCS the following Sunday, and vice versa).  That way, you would reduce the number of weekends used for local "series" tournaments from 18 to 12.  Plus, there would be 6 weekends with two local tourneys relatively close to each other the same weekend (out-of-towners?)....


Now that's the best idea I've seen
discndat
Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:19:21 AM

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Liz, I think Dave got people to TD most or all of them. Not real sure but I'm sure he'll get on here and let us know if not.
discndat
Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:36:52 AM

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Also, just a note for all who read this and play in Course Challenges.

NOTE THE SIGNUP AND TEE-OFF TIMES HAVE CHANGED FOR 2009 COURSE CHALLENGE SERIES EVENTS:

SIGNUP BY 9:00 AM
PLAYERS MEETING 9:15 AM
TEE-OFF 9:30 AM

This will help with the people who have things to do later on in the day. If you are going to get up and be there by 9:30, the half-hour shouldn't hurt much.
AdamJ
Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:19:19 PM

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Finally, good call guys.
pcaldwell
Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:14:45 PM

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Since we're talking about CCS start times: CCS started in 1991.

In 1993, CCS started end of April at Winton (47 players), Limaburg (30), Woodland Md., Mt. Airy (lot shorter then), Rapid Run (34), Banklick, and ended in Nov with both Oxford and Boone. Signups from 9 to 11 and start time of 11:30, final 9's if time and energy allowed, entry $5 for everyone, all divisions got merchandise prizes, and fields were small. Temp baskets were needed for Rapid Run, Mt. Airy (9) and Big Ox (little Ox only had 9).

1994 - Turnout grew and courses got longer, moved start to 11 a.m. with entries $5 for members, $7 for non's.

1996 - Late fee $2 added . Averaged 73 players per CC

1997 - average of 77 players per event (93 at Cabin Creek).

1999 - start time moved to 10 a.m., with Pro entries moving to $10, all others still $5. People wanted bigger payouts, so had to up entries. Prize discs valued at $5, too.

In 2000 - late fees up to $5 because of the hassle caused by late-comers and big turnouts (avg 68). New point system in place (1 pt for each player beaten) for series.

2002 - points changed to place finished, low score is good.

2003 - points fine tuned to no-shows get points equal to largest turnout of year +1. Seems to have worked. Advanced entries raised to $10.

2005 - pro open fee to $15.

2007 - pro open up to $20 to separate from pro masters

2009 - Courses got longer, maybe players got slower?, drives to courses got longer?, people want to do more than DG in day, and we're up to 9:30 a.m. start time. Personally, I think it's great - I'm going to be up anyway early for a CC, anyway, so I might as well get going earlier so I can get home and still have a few hours with the family in the evening.

Just a little CCS history for you. There's a lot more out there, but I'll leave that for later. I'll post this under GCFDA history, too.
Rob J
Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:51:01 AM

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I received the newsletter today, and it says the April 25 Course Challenge is at Gully.  I thought it was going to be AJ Jolly(?)  If it is at AJ Jolly I am going to try to schedule that day off work and attend... 


NEngle
Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:09:33 AM

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I don't think there will be any events at Gulley in the near future.
discndat
Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:50:38 AM

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Schedule off Rob. It is AJ for April 25.
mikekem
Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:05:59 PM

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Can someone tell me which course is our combined BID CSS event. I can't remember if the one we're running is Turtlecreek or Oxford.
Liz
Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:19:21 PM

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I think Dayton is running Monroe and we are running Turtlecreek, although Dayton's BID schedule doesn't include Turtlecreek.
mikekem
Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:32:10 PM

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I'll send Sean an email about it.
mikekem
Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:33:54 PM

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Are we sure about that, I just looked at the Course Challenge Page http://www.cincinnatidiscgolf.com/Events/CourseChallengeSeries.aspx and it says OX.
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