I've always thought of the Advanced division as Intermediate.

Hopefully they will do an Int. Also have enough members to do a Grandmasters for us older players as well. How many over age 50 players are there ?

These Course Challenge events are cheap. Pay $10 for an 18 hole lesson and you are getting a deal, IMO. Smart disc golfers trade prizes today for rewards in the long run. "Pros" such as myself, Rabago, Donovan, Phil Miller play in these events as Pro because we'd rather play against folks that are likely better than us which will improve our game and chances of winning in the future. Play up(above you level) at our CCSs and go back down at PDGA events. You game will improve exponentially ( a bunch).

I don't think one will be added based on past discussions, but I get where you are coming from. Don't hold your breath; fewer divisions are easier to keep track of and I can't disagree with that.

I agree only somewhat with John; you can improve a little by playing with better players by picking up tips, but at some point that will only go so far. Most improvement comes from a ton of practice, play and God given talent. When you play in a lower division the first round you play with at least one, maybe two better players and can pick up tips. The 2nd round you will usually be playing with others of similar skill. When advanced guys move to open, THEY are the "better" player and therefore don't get to pick up tips or play with better competetion. The 2nd round they are then usually playing with others of similar skill, not nessarily someone of better skill. So IMO that argument only goes so far.
In the end, just play where you want to and go by the saying "live, and let live".

On a side note, I have been wanting to run a c-tier for a while that has only advanced and recreational on the am side just to see how much complaining arises.


And if you only play GCFDA events, play whatever it is you play. There are pros who only play GCFDA events.

 its about not feeling like a sandbagger or donating at every event. its like having an open masters, why cant those guys just play open? novice is for beginners! you want more and more new players to come out and have fun, but those new players dont come back for a reason!

Not every decent or good player is a PGDA member. It can be hard to regulate that. Our system may not be perfect, but over the last few years we have seen many more people out at the CCS events. It is not broke, let's try not to fix it and make it worse or harder organize.

The problem has more to do with how people signup and less to do with adding divisions. Adding a division would take away from the already smalller ADV and open fields. However if regulars in a division were asked to move up after a certain finish, years of experience, etc... an equal distribution of talent and players could be created.

Although as stated already there is no simple solution to judging where someone should play. Especially considering most ccs events draw in alot of non pdga players.

What all of this hastle tells me is that the ccs has become more popular and important to more people. Thats a success unless were not tryin to grow the sport, which we are. Oh, im sure yal been hearing this debate for yrs and it was important b4 too, ok....thats as far as it got, obviously! But, if thats true..... then there is even much more of a reason to do something about it. In my opinion the reason for the continued drama surrounding the novice card is that novice plyrs dont have any say in it..(like at a meeting)..I mean, ofcourse they can go but they are new and will have to wait a yr to have an opinion. Its simply not the first thing a new player thinks about which makes it our responsibillity. Theres no way tht this many people can talk about this same issue yr after yr b4 its simply fixed.....who wants to be the one to enjoy that many thank you's

A defintion of Novice is a beginner at anything !! A Int. class is needed. Why move up and play Advanced when some "pros " drop down to play in advanced ? Now you have a good novice player playing against a not so good pro player . Some "novice " players have played for up to 6-8 years, is that really a novice ? Hopefully people that are talking about these issues show up at the meeting !

Im playing advanced this year in the course challenge series no matter what happens yea i like the intermediate thoughts but i know some people seem to think i should be in advanced just like last year when everyone said lawrence should have been in advanced and so on and so on maybe this consider tryin it out and see how it goes i can name at least 10 people that would sign up for it its always said that if theres more than 2 or 3 then it can be a division if you try it they will come!!!!!!!!
Open $20 Open
Women $10
Open Master / Grandmasters $20
Advanced $15
Advanced Masters / Grandmasters $15
Intermediate $10
Novice $5
Looks good to me!!!!! ^^^^^^^ Mikey likes it!!!! More money = more payout!!!!!!

Yup