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Erik

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:26:48 AM

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What are the goals for the CCS?

How big does everyone want it to get? In 2009, a record number of participants were in the CCS . There were a total of 734 registrations or an average of 82 people per course! Is growth still an issue? It is always nice to bring new people in, but what is the maximum capacity of these events?

Does anyone want to change the makeup of the competition? In 2009, the competitions were cut into 1/3’s for ability levels:

252 Novice (247 Novice, 2 Juniors, and 3 Novice women)

267 Advanced (153 Advanced, 100 Advanced Masters, and 14 Advanced Women)

212 Open (130 Open, 75 Masters, and 10 Open Women)

247 registrations in Men’s Novice… Does this not speak volumes about how an intermediate division is needed?

Is bagging a problem? Lots of ideas have been attempted, suggested, etc… Can more be done?

I know this might be complex and could take a while to implement; I personally believe a rating system would help control the bagging. Once a player rating has passed a division threshold, let them move up and carry their points with them.

T_Vincent

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:45:32 AM

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The max is based on the course, number of baskets and speed of play. Standard course, 18 baskets, 90 people. If there is space to add holes then we can go larger. Another thing is the more people, the longer each round goes. Some couses just play faster, so more people is less of an issue. I would not want more than 90 at idlewild, it already takes 3 1/2 to 4 hours for a round. Yet at Winton on Jan 1st, we had over 100 people with groups of six and we got out not much later than normal. Just a few bits to help.

andersab

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:48:25 AM

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Erik wrote:

What are the goals for the CCS?

To have fun and play disc golf... if you want some type of hard core competition, go play PDGA events.

StorminSteve

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:50:45 AM

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Of those 252 novice reg. how many played 1 time and did not return ? As for the bagging that lies within the individual . Meaning that if you won a tournament could you go look yourself in the mirror and say " I played my best and won in the division that I should be in , or I played ok but played in a division that I shouldn't have been into begin with but still won " ?? Be proud of your accomplishments not the metal !

Erik

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:02:01 PM

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StorminSteve wrote:

Of the 247 Men's Novice, 92 people only played 1 time and did not return.
41 from advanced played 1 time and 35 from open/masters played 1 time and did not return.

Why are any of these people playing once and not finishing out the series?

T_Vincent

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:09:02 PM

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Local player, local course. Just to try the tournament.

Madmike

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:09:22 PM

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Erik wrote:

Go back through the last years open winners and see who the top 5 in every event and average it out and the same with advanced and novice but oxford, turtle creek and monroe will be different because of the amount of dayton players that come to those three events!!

Erik

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:45:50 PM

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Madmike wrote:

ok,

	Open	Adv	Spread	Novice	Spread	Mid Novice	Spread
AJ Jolly	106.4	113.6	7.2	122.2	8.6	140.6	18.4
Harbin	95.2	100.4	5.2	110.2	9.8	118.2	8
Idlewild	124.4	135.4	11.0	142.8	7.4	161.6	18.8
Lincoln Ridge	109.2	120.2	11.0	126.4	6.2	143.6	17.2
Mt Airy	110.8	118.4	7.6	130.0	11.6	142.6	12.6
Rapid Run	106.8	120.0	13.2	124.0	4.0	135.8	11.8
Total	652.8	708.0	55.2	755.6	47.6	842.4	86.8
Average	108.8	118.0	9.2	125.9	7.9	140.4	14.5

This still does not account for bagging or the 2x+ participants in novice. If you take the top of the middle of novice you get a spread of 14 strokes!

jimmy10

Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:39:40 PM

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