I have mixed feelings about this. I like the idea but for it to work it will take the group of members already doing the majority of club stuff and spread them out even thinner. Then things like course maintenance will get neglected. Maybe we should save it for the Worlds, if it happens, in 2010. Don't we have like tons of money in the bank already? What are we saving it for anyway?

Fred, I don't think anyone would give you grief if you wanted to raise money for the club and specify where it goes. If you're the one raising it, then you have the say.

And I'm glad to see that you're willing to support the club in some fashion since you refuse to ever run for office. Especially given that the club has tried to support your efforts at Idlewild, I'm sure you'd like to do something for once to help support the club in turn.

Fred, You ever hear "if you want something done right, do it yourself"? What better way to see your ideas through than to run for an office, any office?

I'm wore down after dealing with the website (like 7 years now), Vice Prez under Pete, and now Prez. You should be able to relate, I want to get back to simply enjoying the game.

I have been thinking about it and I think Matt Johnston and myself will volunteer to be the Course Challenge Cooridinator unless someone else wants the position. Anybody else want it? Anybody against Blakely & Fatty Combo? Time to get Fatty involved.

Feel Free to post thoughts, Ideas, different things about the Course Challenge series here or you can email me @ matthew_blakely@hotmail.com.

I can help also, Matt, as I suggested when I PM'ed you, or other ways if needed. Anything to help get Fatty J in the mix. :smile :smile

Throw-ho-ho! Merry Christmas 2 you deuce boy.

The Course Challenge Series schedule should be submitted by the next meeting (February). It works best if a tentative schedule is compiled and then have any objections/comments brought up at the meeting - that's how Nick has done it and it seems to have worked out well.

I have the tournament directors spiral notebook. I forgot to put it back in the tournament box.

Dave.

If increasing your player rating is a priority, then just play your local courses in PDGA sanctioned tourneys.
Oh, playing them well helps too - playing well DOES seem to increase your player rating.
Many highly rated players who show up at a Worlds tourney often perform well below their player rating because they do not adapt well or are not fast learners of new courses.
If you want to become a better player, do not worry about your player rating - just play a lot of golf on a lot of different courses, preferably with good players.
Cincy does have a lot of various courses so traveling distances are not so long.

Don't drop A.J. Jolly from the schedule. In fact, maybe you could move it up a month to September so the club can utilize the park's campground for overnight activities like camping out and glo disc. Just because there are several new courses, doesn't mean we have to incorporate ALL of them into the course challenge at once. Try 1 or maybe 2 new courses per season and see how they work out in place of some of the more easier courses such as boone. Also, let Dayton run their own events separate from ours. The crowds could be really terrible at a combined cc. The chance for miscommunication, disagreement among entities(start times, payout scales, rules, club profit, etc...) and bitterness between the two clubs could really increase during something like this. Plus it's nice to have another option each month if a person can't make a particular cc hosted by their own club.

Okay, here's the deal. Brandon, the combined tourney concept has been lobbied for close to a year now. The idea was to somehow bring together the Cincy and Dayton players in a non-sanctioned event, sort of the way our two cities co-existed in the "good ole days". When I started playing competitively around '94, there weren't that many good courses in Cincinnati, and fewer in Dayton. ANY tournament in Cincy would attract a lot of Dayton players, likewise for Dayton tourneys. Over the years, more courses, more tournaments, and yes, more conflicts over scheduling. This problem (along with other petty squabbles between the clubs) created a considerable amount of animosity, some of it founded, some unfounded, all of it ridiculous. So now you have Dayton with a series, and Cincy with a series, and hardly anyone goes to the other club's tournaments.

So then along comes Monroe and Turtlecreek, right in the epicenter between the two cities, and close to each other. So I figure we could have a combined CCS/BID, co-hosted by the two clubs, with points counting toward both clubs' series. Use both courses, maybe have AM's start on one course, pros on the other, could be a huge turnout....

But what has been posted is a compromised solution, that's why the tentative schedule looks the way it does. It's definitely a BABY STEP in the right direction. I wish the two clubs could work together better, but it will still be really cool if this thing can be pulled off. Dayton hosts the combined event at Monore/Turtlecreek, but the points count toward our series also, just like a regular CCS. Looks like Matt B is thinking about using Ox for our hosted event, not a bad idea. It can be expanded to 24 holes, accomodating up to 120 players, and it has been popular with the Dayton guys in years past.

It's a start....