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NEngle
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:40:48 AM

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Joined: 11/18/2003
Posts: 944
Location: Fairfield, OH

This is always a fun one.  What's in your bag?  Here's what's in mine:

174 Z-Predator (In memory of Elizabeth Reed's dog) Trouble shots, spikes, skips, high winds, forehand rollers

175 First Run Star Destroyer (unmarked) Stable drives, tomahawks

175 Local 101 Champ Teebird (NEngle) Stable drives, skips, long upshots

172 Star Teebird (Blue on blue too) Straight drives, forehands

171 Star Teebird (Yes, yes, y'all) Straight to slightly undersable drives, forehands

174 ESP Deuce or Die Surge (NEngle) Distance drives

170 '06 Pig Brian Kaplan signature series ESP Surge (Brian Kaplan) Turnovers, tailwind distance

174 Matthew Blakely signature series ESP Surge (Matthew Blakely) Backup

175 Columbus Flyers DX Beast (Miranda Wright) Backhand rollers

175 '05 USDGC Flagstick Champ Roc (Nickengle@aol.com) Overstable upshots

175 4x Stiff JK Aviar (Omen) Stable drives/upshots

175 4x Stiff JK Aviar (Nickengle@aol.com) Right fade drives/upshots

175 Local 101 Big Bead DX Aviar (NEngle) Overstable drives/upshots

172 Chains DX Aviar (M Franklin, Fred Cappel) Understable upshots

173 Bottom Stamped 0x Rob Johnston DX Aviar (0x world champion) It just goes to the hole

165 '05 BHMO DX Aviar (Aqua Velva) Putts

andersab
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:59:16 AM

Rank: Elite Veteran

Joined: 5/22/2006
Posts: 692
Location: in the chains
171 FLX Surge (long driver) - Yellow
172 DGA Tsunami (headwind, long drives) - Blue
171 Z Pred (forehand rollers, tomahawks, forehand, skips) - Blue
171 Z Flick (thumbers, big skips, major headwind, spike hyzer) - Green; mike kemner x-out
174 ESP Avenger SS (spike anys, turnover, straight long tunnels, big tailwind) - Yellow
172 ESP Tracker (straight with consistent fade) - White
172 X Tracker (straight flyer) - Blue
175 Star Whippet (MidNationals, short skippers, overstable midrange, short headwinds) - Pink
175 KC-PRO Whippet (working its way out, thumbers, tomahawks) - White
177 FLX Buzzz (go-to anywhere, anything) - Orange
174 ESP Buzzz (slightly understable tunnels, tailwind) - Blue
175 Star Cro (approach) - White
177 ESP Comet (nothing more consistent in the bag, slight turnover, or easy pull straight) - Yellow
177 X Comet (flippy midrange, get out of trouble, working its way out of the bag) - Orange
175 "Da Pumpkin" DX Sonic (putts 50'+, approaches) - Burnt Orange
174 Soft Banger (goto putter) - yellow, sometime orange, sometimes white
174 X Slipstream GT (backhand rollers) - White
Ript Card Game
2 Minis
xtra pair of socks
boone county first-aid kit
gronola bars
2 towels
LStephens
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:13:05 AM

Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/9/2007
Posts: 217
Location: Noakley
171 FLX Surge (It's Yellow)
175 Star Cro (It's Yellow)
169 FLX Buzz (It's Yellow)
170 Champion Beast (It's Yellow)
169 FLX Avenger SS (It's Orange)
171 Flick (It's Orange)
175 FLX Buzz (It's Orange)
171 ESP Pulse (It's Orange)
175 Z Predator (It's Blue)
168 Z Predator (It's Blue)
171 Star Wraith (It's Blue)
169 Star Tee-Rex (It's Blueish)
171 Star Valkryie (It's Red)
166 Champion Valkryie (It's Red)
171 Champion Firebird (It's Redish)
172 Champion Orc (It's Redish)
175 Soft Banger GT (It's White)
174 SSS Wizard (It's White)

As you can see...it's all about having the colors evenly distributed across my bag. I still haven't learned what all the disc do, but I'm working on that. I've been reading up on the subject and I think all I need to do is grunt more on my drives or come up with some catchy phrase to say at my release point.
matthew_blakely
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:53:04 AM
Rank: Extreme Veteran

Joined: 2/27/2003
Posts: 496
Drive: Crystal Challenger
Approach and Putt: D-challenger
Putt: Apx-Swirl
Straight, anhyzers: ESP Comet
Mid Range straight, slight hyzers: Z-buzz
Mid Range Hyzers, Wind: D-Drone
Anhyzers, Rollers: ESP Avenger SS
Hyzers, Side Arms, Wind: ESP Avenger
Slight Hyzers, Wind Distance: ESP Crush
Side Arm, Wind: ESP Predator
Distance: ESP Surge or X-Avenger

Testing
ESP Flash might become distance driver
ESP XL might become a controlled driver
Crystal Flex Avenger SS might become a controlled driver
finnhawc
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:00:24 PM

Rank: Elite Veteran

Joined: 1/16/2007
Posts: 923
Location: Wyoming
The winter bag has mostly champion substitutes for my irreplaceable discs.
In order of stability roughly:
175 Ching Banshee (white) -forehands and headwind drives
175 Champion Firebird (yellow)- headwind/spike hyzers/short tomma and thumma hawks
175 Star Teerex (pink)- longest drives regardless of wind
175 Champion Orc (blue)- long drives with a tailwind
175 Esp Gulley Open Surge (hospital green)- long turnovers
174 Star TL (white)- straight and true my favorite disc
172 Z Cherry stamped XS (dark blue)- uphills and downhills anhyzer disc
175 First run Champion Leopard (yellow)- Super straight drives
180 Champion Roc USDGC first run (yellow)- Most stable disc I own pound for pound
180 San Marino Roc (purple)- for playing catch with the basket from 200+
177 Ontario Roc (purple-pink)- Slight turnovers from 300-375
175 San Marino Roc (yellow)- Turnover or tailwind shots under 300
171 San Marino Roc (orange)- Tight turnovers and short straight shots
175 Z Magnet (yellow)- short stall shots/ short spike hyzers/ for the asshphalt pins at Mound n Winton
175 D Magnet (white)- replacement putter slightly more stable
175 D Magnet (pink)- when it absolutely must go in the basket accept no substitutes
Winter stuff-

180 Z Comet (green) - staight shots from 300-400
175 Z MRV (orange) - it is what Al-Man Shot on 90% of his drives at Winton enough said.
pcaldwell
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:34:10 PM

Rank: Extreme Veteran

Joined: 2/28/2003
Posts: 288
I would have thought 'who cares', but having just spent 10 minutes reading and visualizing each disc you guys listed, I might as well list mine. They were in my bag at the November Course Challenge so I guess they'll be there in March when I pick it back up again, although my arm will be a disc less stable for the first month.

Max drives (420'+) with room to flex or long hyzer : Star Wraith (white)

Big drives (350'-420')- 2 Champion Orcs (blue - overstable, white - less overstable)

Super headwind (300'-320')- ESP Predator (orange)

Straight drives (320'-360') 3 or 4 CE Teebird TL's (all yellow - each seasoned to slightly different stabilities)

Long turnover drives/rollers - Star Sidewinder - beat!

Drives/approaches (280'-330') - 3 Rocs - (blue-new and overstable, orange-seasoned and stable, yellow - 6 years of beatings - understable)

Everything under 300' - 4 Innova putt/approach - (yellow-new/overstable, blue-experienced and stable, blue-more experienced and less stable, yellow - beat/turnover. They all putt depending on wind/length.

They're all stay in the bag, but I'll tune the bag and leave some in the trunk based on the course/wind. If the course is simple I'll get down to 10 discs - but if wind might change or course is more complicated (Mt. Airy/Idlewild) might carry all with some spares for practice shots before round or in case of water (16-18). Winton/Woodland - 2 or 3 discs - putter, roc, t-bird.
perica
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:00:57 PM

Rank: Extreme Veteran

Joined: 9/18/2005
Posts: 370
Location: Where it puts the lotion on its skin
150 Z-Flick (orange) distance forehands and forehand spike hyzers.
172 ESP Predator (Blue, first run) forehand rollers, headwind drives, hyzers and skip shots.
172 Z surge (orange) distance drives.
174 X-Predator (yellow and beat) hyzer flips that I can expect to come back to some degree.
173 Squall (yellow) still learning this one, but for long turnovers and some tunnel shots.
172 Crystal Buzz (green, Disc 'n Dat '07) straight midrange shots and some hyzers.
170 something Warlock (green, Gaehl signature series) putts when I am pullng aviars to the right.
172 Z Comet (yellow) straight shots and turnovers with little ceiling restrictions.
170 something JK aviar (blue) go-to putter and some approach shots.
172 JK aviar (white) backup in case I lose my blue aviar.
170 dx aviar (pink, small bead, beat) turnover approach shots.
steve mahl's '05 yellow DX valkarie. found and not returned yet.
3 bic lighters (yellow, red, black)
1 cricket lighter (black)
birdie bag (blue)
cigarette butts (about 50)
1 sharpie (red, fine point)
some guy's cell phone that was lost and has never been returned.
4 D Batteries (in case some nympho runs out of juice)
2Timer
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:19:44 PM
Rank: Extreme Veteran

Joined: 3/30/2006
Posts: 372
Location: Ameila, Oh
Having to almost completely overhaul my bag I am putting what I use to throw and what has replaced it.

175 Max replaced by 174 Z Flick (Heavy Head winds and flick shots)
175 Max beat in replaced by 174 ESP Predator (slight to strong headwinds)
175 T-bird Champion replaced by 174 ESP Avenger (all around hyzer shots from 350' and in)
175 Pro Wraith replaced by 174 ESP Crush (flat raw distance with a slight to moderate headwind)
175 Pro Wrath slightly beat replaced by 174 ESP Pulse (Distance with a litte right cross or tailwind)
175 Star Wraith replaced by 174 EXP Surge (staight flight distance with little to no headwind)
175 Orc champion beat replaced by Not sure yet but gone anyway!
175 Z XS gets to stay in bag
178 Roc DX fresh replaced by 177 Wasp D(Hyzers around 300' and in or headwinds)
178 Roc SE replaed by same Wasp
178 Roc Mid beat replaced by 177 Buzz D
172 Banger GT D gets to stay (Fresh for putting)
172 Banger GT D (for straight upshots)
172 Banger GT D (Fresh for hyzer upshots)
169 Sidewinder replaced by EXP Avenger SS (Rollers)
175 Omega Driver(putter) replaced by beat challenger (straight upshots when I don't want to beat up my precious Banger GT)

P.S. I have a bunch of sweet Innova plastic for sale if anyone is interested!
Also, I would like to give a big thank you for the support that I have been given over the last couple of years! ( Fred Salaz, Chris Clark)
I couldn't have played in half the tournies I did without these 2 guys. Also, thanks to Matt for his kind words to Discraft and also Brad Schick for his help!
Fred Salaz
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:57:27 PM
Rank: Expert

Joined: 2/27/2003
Posts: 1,233
Roc, Aviar, Destroyer, Firebird. That's all I need to beat you chumps.....
KevinB
Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:59:30 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/27/2006
Posts: 270
Location: Bexley, OH
Candy (Jolly Ranchers and Smarties)
Couple of Granola Bars
Lots Of Loose Change
Sharpies
Equalizer
Pliers with knife, screwdriver, bottle opener, saw & other things on it.
3 Pro Valkyries different stage of beat
1 DX Valkyrie
1 Champion Sidewinder
1 KC Pro T-Bird that is fancy and a few people want
1 KC Pro Cheetah
1 ESP Comet
2 DX Sharks one beat, one new
1 DX Stingray really old
2 JK Pro Aviar-X one softer than the other
Fresh Mint
Craig
Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:43:33 AM
Rank: Extreme Veteran

Joined: 10/3/2005
Posts: 240
<p>4 rhynos</p><p>&nbsp;2 buzzes, a wasp and a gator </p><p>2 firebirds, 4 tsunamis, 2 maxs, a couple of destroyers depending&nbsp;on how many I lost that day.&nbsp; Boy those thing like water.&nbsp;</p><p>And a wraith and a tracker to roll with</p><p>And trying a SS avenger</p>
STEVO
Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:08:07 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 3/10/2003
Posts: 228

Craig, do you need to turn on your emoticons, or maybe a decoding device?...:smile

Let's see, for me:

Drivers- Lots of Valkeries (one less until I run into Mr. Perica), mostly DX, mostly under 170g (required anhyzer plastic).

Midrange- Four DX Rocs, varying degrees of "broken in".

Putters- Big bead Aviar, Super Softie Magnet, XD (anybody remember what that is?).

X-Clone for forehand shots- My thumb likes the upper lip.

A couple other specialty discs that hitched a ride in my bag- One good shot and I usually let 'em stay in for a while.

Craig
Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:16:43 PM
Rank: Extreme Veteran

Joined: 10/3/2005
Posts: 240
I had pressed enter to go to next line. Looked alright until I edited and added the Avenger SS. Then I don't know, that's how it came back up.
rangel
Posted: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:38:47 AM

Rank: Veteran

Joined: 5/11/2004
Posts: 136
Location: NKY
Quote:
2Timer - 1/11/2008 9:19 PM
175 Orc champion beat replaced by Not sure yet but gone anyway!


First. Congratulations are in order.

I can't throw any of these long range over-stable drivers. And I don't know how you use an Orc, but I would think a beat in Z Avenger might come close. Or maybe a new"ish" Z Crush. I've seen Kevin throw both (I think), but he has never thrown an Orc :think

Just crunchin some numbers.
13ruce-137
Posted: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:51:11 PM
Rank: Regular

Joined: 8/7/2006
Posts: 94
Star Destroyer 171
Star Wraith 175.3
Star Starfire 174.6
Star Sidewinder 174
Champ Wraith 171 and 172
Champ Tbird 173.1
Champ Valkerie 170
Esp Avenger SS 173.8

Crystal Z Buzz 173.4
Esp Buzz 176
Z Glide 175
Esp Wasp 177.2
Dx Flattop Roc 178.5

4 Pro Rinos 173
Pro Birdie 174

1 weighted driver mini
1 Shut up and throw mini

2 chewy choc chip granola bars
1 roll elec tape
5 glow leds
2 innova pencils
$1.43 in change
1 AAA battery
half a french fry
half a bottle of vitamin water raspberry
and a partridge in a pear tree!
bobherb
Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:32:24 PM

Rank: Elite Veteran

Joined: 8/10/2004
Posts: 449
Nice.
Very inclusive and even a bit creative!!! :user
Ben Shooner
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:03:22 AM

Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/16/2003
Posts: 248
Would be tough to catalog EVERYTHING (there may be a few dead animals and/or lost children in there), but here's the plastic:

Matthew Blakely beat up Z Flash
Matthew Blakely Z Wasp
CFR Sidewinder
Avenger SS
1st run Z Avenger
FLX Surge
ESP Special Edition Comet
The Bulldog
Star TL
Heavy Z Buzz (Gibralter)
Cyztal Z Challenger
Pro Challenger
Duece or Die Z Predator
Old beat up Z Crush
A few Wraiths from time to time
BIGBOY
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:51:48 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 7/27/2005
Posts: 288
My bag contains:

Ham
Cheese
Pita pockets
Peanut Butter
Granola Bars
Kit Kat
Vitamin Water
Dog Treats (Pretty good as Philly Cheese)

oh yeah, and a few discs about 175 grams...
Just Kidding

2 Pro Challengers 175 g
3 Tsunami's 175g
1 10time Teebird 175g
2 DC ESP Surge's 171g and 174 g
1 Z Predator 175 g
1 CE Valkryie (Flattop) 175g
1 ESP Buzz 175g
1 Champion Shark 180g
1 ESP Comet 175g
1 Swirl APX 175g


TheBestKeith
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:54:39 PM
Rank: Tree Hukker

Joined: 8/3/2004
Posts: 20

It's been a while since I've played a round, but my bag has been just about the same for close to a year.  I rotate my bag whenever something starts to show too much wear.

WeightPlasticMoldStabilityConditionUses
DRIVERS

174

Champion

Firebird

Very Overstable

Beat in

Trick Shots

170

Star

Firebird

Overstable

Beat in

Strong Headwinds, S-Curves

168

Champion

Beast

Stable

Beat in

Main Distance Driver

172

Star

Sidewinder

Slightly Understable

Beat in

Long Annies, Rollers

174

DX

Teebird

Slightly Overstable

New

Slight Headwinds

170

DX

Teebird

Stable

Beat in

Control Driver

174

DX

Teebird

Slightly Understable

Thrashed

Tailwinds

MIDRANGE

176

DX

Roc

Overstable

New

Slight Headwinds

176

DX

Roc

Slightly Overstable

Beat in

Straight Midrange

174

DX

Roc

Slightly Understable

Beat

Slight Turnovers, Tailwinds

171

DX

Classic Roc

Very Understable

Thrashed

Turnovers, Most approaches

PUTTERS

171

DX

Classic Roc

Understable

New

Putter

174

DX

Classic Roc

Slightly Overstable

New

Approaches

Eric Simpson
Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31:47 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/3/2007
Posts: 138
Location: Hebron,KY
1 Champion Starfire 171 headwind bulldozer
2 Pro Starfires 174,175 tailwind boom booms (and by boom booms, I really mean pathetic pit-pats) or just whenever I want a pretty i-dye kaleidoscope
3 Champion Orcs 161,171,175 I tell myself because they are my most accurate for the 275-325' range when I need some fade, even though it is really the Teebirds.
Ok, really it is because I have an Orc fetish. I have a brand new Pro & a Star I'm saving for that "special day".
3 DX Teebirds 174,175,? newish, fished out of the bottom of a pond, & dog chew toy; err I mean different stages of beat depending on how much stability I need
1 Champion Leopard 172 was my hyzer flip to straight or anhyzer driver, but working its way out of my bag thanks to my beat to hell teebird & dx stingray
1 1st run Star Cro 170 straight to overstable midrange, 50'+/headwind putter
1 KC 12x Pro Roc 180 still fairly new - overstable, more glide than the Cro, can't remember the last time I used it
1 DX Roc 180 beat to stable, should probably use it more, but I can't keep my hands off the Cro, may be sitting on the sidelines with the KC Pro soon
1 DX Stingray 179 (thanks Rob J) was perfectly straight for all of one round at Idlewild, then became the perfect turnover midrange/backhand roller
1 DX Leopard 150 backhand roller, as long as there is zero wind, otherwise it is my best sticker bush or OB finder
2 Pro Rhynos 174 putt & approach, though I'm fairly certain they are defective as they often miss the chains

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